356) Answering for Anime

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356) Answering for Anime

Postby Andrew » Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:44 am

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When someone from the outside questions your fandom of anime, it often leaves you in a bind. If you’re searching for the right words, or just wanting to hear someone else’s experiences, this is the podcast episode for you!

Topics this episode: Experiences with others discovering hosts’ love for anime, stigma surrounding anime fandom, is it just cartoons, is it just for kids, is it just porn, are loli bad, does the fandom create stigmas, explaining your fandom, and more!

The intro for this episode is the OP for Time of Eve called “Time of EVE” from the official soundtrack. The outro for this episode is called “Futari no Mahou” by May J.

We hope you all enjoy!
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Re: 356) Answering for Anime

Postby fragoff » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:57 am

I think people block themselves from anime because they assume they need to grow up and stop watching what they link to kid stuff.
For them, anime/cartoon are the stuff of either young entertainment or teen/adult comedy. They literaly block the notion of an adult anime that could be anything but that.
'This is for kids, i am an adult, i am watching real things' is the mainstream path of thoughts people have. Witch is kind of ironic when you see marvel or DC movies working so well.
One fact i have found over the years is than anime watchers are mostly people who felt on anime at an age were they hadn't quite let go of cartoons yet. Making it a natural transition from kid cartoons to adult animes as another person not falling upon anime made the transition betwen cartoons and live action.
In general, i believe it is unproductive to try to bring someone to the dark side. You might try and your anime pick will be as good as any other. I understand a smart pick can help a bit. But ultimatly, you are fighting against a mind set and the longer your target has had this mindset the less likely you will get him into animes.
If you are an anime warrior fighting for the anime religion then aim for young people. Intruduce the endoctrinment early. It will work.
But if your goal is to change mom and dad, it will not be your actions that will change anything, but almost only mom and dad 'affinity/mindset' to it.
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Re: 356) Answering for Anime

Postby Mys145 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:35 am

I don't bother trying to get people who don't watch or interested in anime into trying anime because it's a waste of time and just make you the weird person at work. It would be nice but I can live with keeping it to myself and have friends to talk about anime.

Also you guys are still mispronouncing Naruto.

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Re: 356) Answering for Anime

Postby fragoff » Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:50 pm

Mys145 wrote:I don't bother trying to get people who don't watch or interested in anime into trying anime because it's a waste of time and just make you the weird person at work. It would be nice but I can live with keeping it to myself and have friends to talk about anime.

Also you guys are still mispronouncing Naruto.


That's were i disagree. I do tell people i watch anime if it is brought up in a conversation . I never press the issue but i do not shy from this.
I believe that hidding what you are or like denies your own existence. It also makes you be what other people want you to be. And i sure as hell will never let other people dictate what i should be or not.
There are social limits to this, of course, but anime ain't one of them.
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Re: 356) Answering for Anime

Postby Ramza » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:37 pm

This is a tough topic to cover and I think you guys did relatively well. Personally, this topic is something I have struggled with my whole life so I was very invested into this episode. You guys didn't really get into the heavier side of being apart of the fandom but I still thought you raised some good points.

fragoff wrote:
Mys145 wrote:I don't bother trying to get people who don't watch or interested in anime into trying anime because it's a waste of time and just make you the weird person at work. It would be nice but I can live with keeping it to myself and have friends to talk about anime.


That's were i disagree. I do tell people i watch anime if it is brought up in a conversation . I never press the issue but i do not shy from this.
I believe that hidding what you are or like denies your own existence. It also makes you be what other people want you to be. And i sure as hell will never let other people dictate what i should be or not.
There are social limits to this, of course, but anime ain't one of them.


I am the same as Mys145 on this topic. I don't mention to anyone that doesn't already know, that I watch and like anime. The simple reason for that, is because I have experienced nothing but negative experiences 90% of the time when i mention my interest in anime. As you mentioned fragoff, other people see anime as immature and anyone that watches it is similarly immature. Unfortunately this negative stigma amplifies the older you get.

I have struggled my whole life with trying to accept my love for anime. It can be really painful when the thing you love and get so much enjoyment from, makes other people stare down their nose at you. I grew up in a regional town that was centered around football and drinking and the only thing anyone cared about was how manly and macho you were. Growing up in that environment as the weird kid that didn't play football and watched 'foreign' cartoons was extremely difficult. Even after I left that place and moved to the city I still found that the stigma of being a fan of Anime was everywhere and there was no escape.

The problem that kept occurring for me, was that if I was open about my hobby it would diminish my social interactions because other people weren't accepting of it. In the end I decided to keep my hobby to myself and hide it from people. I did this so I could grow friendships, and sometimes I would slowly introduce my hobby to people I became close with.

Anime for me has been a love and hate relationship. I love it because it brings me stability and happiness, but I hate it sometimes because of the stigma it carries. I always hear, "be yourself and people will accept you for who you are" but I have rarely ever encountered this in the real world. As long as I am honest with myself about loving anime, then that's what's important to me. This will sound hypocritical, but to me it's not; Generally, I don't care what others think of me, but when people know about my hobby and their reaction to it affects my personal and professional lives then it does matter.

In the end I have found my own happy medium which works for me. Not everyone will agree with it but that's to be expected.

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Re: 356) Answering for Anime

Postby JackTWD4th » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:13 am

Don't want to answer for anime as it is just problematic. I like it and like talking about with those in the know but it is a hidden part of myself. At this stage discretion is the better part of valor.

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Re: 356) Answering for Anime

Postby BlueSpark » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:13 am

Tough topic, and a pretty good discussion that evolved from it. I've never really tried to convert any non-believers to anime fandom, myself. I have casually told some people that I like to watch anime series, the reactions to which were largely indifferent. So I haven't had to do much defending or answering.

Since I'm introverted and internally motivated, I don't crave anyone else's approval, and I see no need to convince other people to love anime. I'm enjoying it for myself, and that's what matters most. Of course, there's sometimes a desire to share my passion, but I think it's only proper for me to restrain myself and not force it on people.

Whenever I do hear that somebody else even has a slight interest in anime, however, I'm more than happy to inquire about their tastes and, if there's an overlap with mine, start handing out some recommendations ;). Literally this week I have convinced a co-worker (who told me she watched The Future Diary a while ago and has also seen a number of anime movies) to check out Your Name (which she hadn't even heard of since she's not involved in the fandom), a couple of Hosoda and Ghibli films as well as Steins;Gate.

While I would've loved to recommend a plethora of other series to her, as well, I'm careful not to overstep my bounds. I mean, Clannad might be one of the greatest animes of all time, but those eyes might not sit well with somebody who hasn't built up a tolerance to moe yet :P. And it's more geared towards a male audience, too.
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Re: 356) Answering for Anime

Postby QueenInoue » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:56 pm

i have a nurse at my work who picks on me about my anime and one night just for giggles she googled anime lol I don't think she will start watching though. I have one friend who only watches Dragonball Super. Thats it. I am going to send him a link to a web stream for some of my faves in dub since he won't watch sub the butt head. lol
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